Brilliant post from Dan Kaplan http://www.quora.com/Dan-Kaplan beginning with:
So Robert Scoble, it seems you don't like the heat. In the bygone days of what feels like ten minutes ago, you, the ubiquitous tech evangelist, larger-than-life personality and Rackspace blogger, couldn't stop gushing about how great Quora was. Was Quora, you asked in the halcyon age of last December, the biggest blogging innovation in 10 years? Of course it was. Back in them days and throughout January, you could post answers to a wide range of questions and your ardent Twitter followers could up-vote them en masse and each up-vote and congratulatory comment could generate that awesome squirt of dopamine in your brain. Wasn't it grand?
See how this plays out, comments coming in by-the-minute... http://www.quora.com/Dan-Kaplan/Sorry-Scoble-Quora-is-not-your-playground
See Robert's Quora activity : http://www.quora.com/Robert-Scoble-1
Pester me with inane, snarky, and even thoughtful questions right here: http://www.quora.com/saulfleischman
My take on Quora:
http://osakabentures.com/2011/01/quora1/
http://osakabentures.com/2011/01/does-quora-differ-from-other-qa-sns/
This is a Quora "post," not Q&A. To get started with Quora posting, see http://osakabentures.com/2011/02/quora-post-ideas/
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Sorry, Scoble, Quora is not your playground
Suggest Edits"This used to be my playground. This used to my childhood dream. This used be the place I ran to...whenever I was in need."
-Madonna.
So Robert Scoble, it seems you don't like the heat. In the bygone days of what feels like ten minutes ago, you, the ubiquitous tech evangelist, larger-than-life personality and Rackspace blogger, couldn't stop gushing about how great Quora was. Was Quora, you asked in the halcyon age of last December, the biggest blogging innovation in 10 years? Of course it was. Back in them days and throughout January, you could post answers to a wide range of questions and your ardent Twitter followers could up-vote them en masse and each up-vote and congratulatory comment could generate that awesome squirt of dopamine in your brain. Wasn't it grand?
But, my, how quickly these things can change.
This morning, after seeing some of your favored Quora answers down-voted into oblivion and experiencing the anonymous sting of an overzealous reviewer, you decided to lash out. (http://scobleizer.com/2011/01/30...) Quora, you wrote, was "a horrid service for blogging." Sure, you said, "it's fine for a QA site, but we have lots of those." As if to administer a finishing move, you added that Quora's competitors are actually bigger and better and badder – especially Stack Exchange, where "the answers are broader in reach and deeper in quality."
Well, sorry, Scoble, Quora is not your playground.
You see, back in the way-back days for Quora, around the time you wrote the site off as another "damn thing on the internet," (Remember those days? Robert Scoble's answer to Why isn't Robert Scoble on Quora?) the community/reviewer/admin nexus was quite good at ensuring that the highest quality answers were the ones at the top. But when you decided that Quora would actually be an excellent place to exercise your influence, the Scoble Effect kicked in. And while the Scoble Effect can be a wonderful thing for a startup – see Flipboard – in a finely balanced ecosystem like Quora's, it has landed like a Category 5 hurricane.
This is not really your fault: Quora's auto-follow logic was not built for edge cases like yours – cases that have 125K+ followers attached to their social graphs. The logic that made early Quora's on-boarding experience so effective has transformed your Twitter army into your Quora horde. And this horde has been rampaging like a bunch of 12th Century Mongolians.
These raiders, insensitive to the cultural norms of the civilization they are pillaging, give you up-votes despite your fluffy rambling, despite the showy photos and links to yourself that you stuff into your answers, despite the names you drop with utterly rabid aplomb. They vote up your shit because that's what hordes do when they are yours.
The consequence has been a number of prominent questions where your answers rise to the top, leaving the objectively more sophisticated answers languishing below the fold.
Well, Robert, no civilization likes to be raided by Mongols. On a long enough horizon, its constituents will develop better defenses, build bigger alliances and do what they can to mitigate the damage from the raids.
Sometimes, in the rush to combat the chaos, a reviewer or two will get out of line. And the fact that he or she can anonymously shut down a popular answer with no clear means of recourse is surely unfair. But Quora is young, yet, and the minds behind the site are hard at work designing a salve for its growing pains.
Until the salve can be applied, I implore you: tame your ego, chill out with the fluffy rambles, the photos and the naked self-aggrandizement. Exercise restraint. You may find that community will stop treating you as a hostile Khan, pillaging its frontiers from the Social Media Steppe. It may even come to embrace your presence, sending you up-votes as tribute for your newly peaceful disposition and the positive attention your bring to the site.
This post was cross-posted from The Quora Review (http://quorareview.com/2011/01/3...)Suggest Edits Suggest edits to the author of this post:"This used to be my playground. This used to my childhood dream. This used be the place I ran to...whenever I was in need."
-Madonna.
So Robert Scoble, it seems you don't like the heat. In the bygone days of what feels like ten minutes ago, you, the ubiquitous tech evangelist, larger-than-life personality and Rackspace blogger, couldn't stop gushing about how great Quora was. Was Quora, you asked in the halcyon age of last December, the biggest blogging innovation in 10 years? Of course it was. Back in them days and throughout January, you could post answers to a wide range of questions and your ardent Twitter followers could up-vote them en masse and each up-vote and congratulatory comment could generate that awesome squirt of dopamine in your brain. Wasn't it grand?
But, my, how quickly these things can change.
This morning, after seeing some of your favored Quora answers down-voted into oblivion and experiencing the anonymous sting of an overzealous reviewer, you decided to lash out. (http://scobleizer.com/2011/01/30/why-i-was-wrong-about-quora-as-a-blogging-service/) Quora, you wrote, was "a horrid service for blogging." Sure, you said, "it's fine for a QA site, but we have lots of those." As if to administer a finishing move, you added that Quora's competitors are actually bigger and better and badder – especially Stack Exchange, where "the answers are broader in reach and deeper in quality."
Well, sorry, Scoble, Quora is not your playground.
You see, back in the way-back days for Quora, around the time you wrote the site off as another "damn thing on the internet," (Remember those days? Robert Scoble's answer to Why isn't Robert Scoble on Quora?) the community/reviewer/admin nexus was quite good at ensuring that the highest quality answers were the ones at the top. But when you decided that Quora would actually be an excellent place to exercise your influence, the Scoble Effect kicked in. And while the Scoble Effect can be a wonderful thing for a startup – see Flipboard – in a finely balanced ecosystem like Quora's, it has landed like a Category 5 hurricane.
This is not really your fault: Quora's auto-follow logic was not built for edge cases like yours – cases that have 125K+ followers attached to their social graphs. The logic that made early Quora's on-boarding experience so effective has transformed your Twitter army into your Quora horde. And this horde has been rampaging like a bunch of 12th Century Mongolians.
These raiders, insensitive to the cultural norms of the civilization they are pillaging, give you up-votes despite your fluffy rambling, despite the showy photos and links to yourself that you stuff into your answers, despite the names you drop with utterly rabid aplomb. They vote up your shit because that's what hordes do when they are yours.
The consequence has been a number of prominent questions where your answers rise to the top, leaving the objectively more sophisticated answers languishing below the fold.
Well, Robert, no civilization likes to be raided by Mongols. On a long enough horizon, its constituents will develop better defenses, build bigger alliances and do what they can to mitigate the damage from the raids.
Sometimes, in the rush to combat the chaos, a reviewer or two will get out of line. And the fact that he or she can anonymously shut down a popular answer with no clear means of recourse is surely unfair. But Quora is young, yet, and the minds behind the site are hard at work designing a salve for its growing pains.
Until the salve can be applied, I implore you: tame your ego, chill out with the fluffy rambles, the photos and the naked self-aggrandizement. Exercise restraint. You may find that community will stop treating you as a hostile Khan, pillaging its frontiers from the Social Media Steppe. It may even come to embrace your presence, sending you up-votes as tribute for your newly peaceful disposition and the positive attention your bring to the site.
This post was cross-posted from The Quora Review (http://quorareview.com/2011/01/30/sorry-scoble-quora-is-not-your-playground/)To be fair, at least one of his answers was collapsed erroneously, and that's not fair for anyone on Quora.
His reaction was overly retalitory, and instead of writing Quora off, he could have rallied his followers to adopt the kind of deep participation and contributions that have up to this point made Quora the exceptional community that it is.
See this Amp at http://bit.ly/i1xT1I
